leethet | Because I'm irritated...

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Because I'm irritated...

...and this is the best place to vent that.

I'm irritated by people who pretend to be offering a rational argument about something they don't like, while they are in fact irrationally and ignorantly hostile to it, have never open mindedly examined it, know nothing of it, wish to know nothing of it and use as evidence against it the random opinions of other uninformed foes. How can you ever hope to comprehend something or someone when all you feel toward it is contempt based on no actual information, something you can't be bothered to learn about but can only be bothered to mock? How can you stand back and accept only misinformation and propaganda from admitted foes of something and pretend you have anything like a rational opinion about it?

Hm. I don't feel much better.

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Grudge-carrying, it's a new Olympic sport. ;)

...I wonder why it seems to be (in this instance) against all slashers? Aren't grudges usually personal? It reminds me of the fuss in t'other fandom about people who go "Ewww, het!" and apparently actually mean it. And the ship pissiness. I mean, hell, can't you just acknowledge you don't care to read something without insulting those who do, or those who write it? And especially, how can you condescendingly mock a genre you don't even read? How do you know it all sucks when you don't read it? How???? Argh...

Ah...I am starting to feel a little better. Thanks for listening, guys!

I was being vague because there's a plethora of possible things in fandom that could come under that rant... ;)

I tend to go 'eww, het' if I stumble across it by accident when I'm not expecting it because I do people the courtesy of labelling my slash so those who don't like it can avoid it and expect them to do likewise for me. I don't, however, seek it out so I can criticise it because, guess what, It Doesn't Interest Me. But it's no skin off my nose if the vast majority of people love the stuff as long as I don't have to read it.

The automatic assumption that one genre is better than another because it's the genre you like has always been with us and probably always will be, alas. There are always going to be people out there who think their opinion is more important than anyone else's and therefore everyone should agree with them about everything, talk about what *they* want to talk about (preferably without them having to make any effort themselves) and write the kind of stories they want to read.

Unfortunately for their peace of mind there's always going to be the rest of us too. :P

I was being vague because there's a plethora of possible things in fandom that could come under that rant... ;)

Sigh. Ain't that the truth? There was an HP rant that got my back up; now the Channel W fuss, which was that last straw. I'm quite irritated. The condescension, the bringing in of random insults (or "jokes" as has been alleged) from mystery guests, so that you get the benefit of insulting us without taking the responsibility of saying it yourself (although, if you don't agree with those random insults from your mystery guests, why'd you bring them up in the first place?). Grr.
We all have our likes and dislikes and what we think makes sense and what doesn't, and I enjoy a discussion about those differences that doesn't take a tone of "well, it's wrong, of course, but don't you girls worry your pretty little heads about it, because I am prepared to be tolerant of your cute little porn."

There's a reason I'm very selective about which lists I'm on in most fandoms - I can't be doing with being patronised or labelled (beyond a certain extent) and second-guessing myself for the possibility of being wilfully misunderstood gets old real fast. ;)

Exactly. Usually I'm silent on lists for precisely those reasons. Then I decide to open my mouth on Ch. W and boom. :) Oh well.

so that you get the benefit of insulting us without taking the responsibility of saying it yourself

Yes, that felt underhanded to me because there's no good way to reply.

so that you get the benefit of insulting us without taking the responsibility of saying it yourself

Yes, that felt underhanded to me because there's no good way to reply.

Um, sorry that wasn't my reply above--those were YOUR replies.

I didn't understand the purpose of those offensive annecdotes except to antagonize and ridicule. They were too crude and belittling to start a dialogue and I was amazed the list mods didn't step in. (Except to eventually defend him from misinterpretation).

Exactly. He then was free to say "Oh, I didn't say that." Perhaps not, but then why was he quoting it? If he disagreed, why repeat the offensive quote in the first place? That he knew it was offensive is evidenced in his "sorry if this offended" disclaimer. It's a cheap shot, a way of posting insults without taking responsibility for being insulting. The thing is, have the courage of your opinions and convictions. If he does dislike slash so much (as seems to be the case -- and as is certainly his privilege), why not have the balls to say so, rather than using insulting remarks from random strangers?

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