Why?

18 May 2005 12:59 pm
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Why do I even try? When will I learn to not get involved in these totally futile and infuriating "Why do you write slash?" discussions? We calmly and reasonably try to explain our point of view and it hits that brick wall of willful misunderstanding and condescension. We get is "But it's all porn" (no) "They're not gay on the show" (they're also not married or with kids or retired or timeshifted to the present on the show -- does that stop people from writing fanfic? Where're the attacks on them?) and the best of all, that snide, superior "WHY are you so defensive?" (try NOT being defensive when someone attacks you). Futile, futile...
Hm. Nope. don't feel better yet. Grrr... this is why I hate Net "communication." I want to be face to face with these people and explain without interference the many logical fallacies they're wallowing in in their arrogance.

Date: 18 May 2005 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dinahmt.livejournal.com
I couldn't agree more, Lee. It's brickwallsville.

Date: 18 May 2005 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] st-crispins.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] sithdrgn offered a wonderfully reasonable, rational, entirely civilized response. It should have ended there.

I have to say, even I'm getting tired of such questions and they're not even aimed at me.

Date: 18 May 2005 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leethet.livejournal.com
Yes, she did.
I liked Marian's response even better. Honestly, we don't nag at gen fans about why they like gen, then say "Hey! Why're you so defensive?" For some reason "I see the potential there" isn't a sufficient answer -- that's when it degenerates, because I think the question is not being honestly asked. I really think the veiled hostility gets unveiled when the conversation goes on a while. There IS no "acceptable" explanation when a person is determined to not see (and to be derogatory). A person who just doesn't see will always simply say that, without any insulting codicils.

Date: 18 May 2005 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
Grrr... this is why I hate Net "communication." I want to be face to face with these people and explain without interference the many logical fallacies they're wallowing in in their arrogance.

Punching them also works. ;)

Date: 18 May 2005 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leethet.livejournal.com
Oh, don't tempt me ...

Date: 18 May 2005 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gilda-elise.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to imagine that anyone who's been around fandoms for any length of time hasn't already have been exposed to every "reason" imaginable for slash. Especially if she has "friends she dearly loves" who are slashers. Didn't she ask them already? After all these years did she truly believe someone could magically give her a reason for slash she could accept? Give me a break. I don't care what terms they couch it in, I find it hard to think it's not just another attempt to ridicule slash and indirectly, or maybe not so indirectly, slashers.

But, hey, I'm just unfriendly. *g*

Date: 19 May 2005 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leethet.livejournal.com
I don't care what terms they couch it in, I find it hard to think it's not just another attempt to ridicule slash and indirectly, or maybe not so indirectly, slashers.

I have a real hard time seeing some of those posts any other way than that, for precisely the reasons you state.

Date: 18 May 2005 10:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] obelix
It's no use they don't want to understand they want us to agree with them that slash is wrong, wrong, wrong *sigh*


Date: 19 May 2005 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellessaretta.livejournal.com
There there! {{{{HUGS}}}}

Not all genners are out to get you. I hope you know I think the world of y'all! I don't see why it's such a big deal why anyone writes what they write. I just figure you write it because you like it. :-/

Date: 19 May 2005 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leethet.livejournal.com
And even more to the point, Lor, you don't give us a snide superior attitude. You simply don't like it and are fine with that. So are we (for all that we tease you about coming over to the dark side -- you know we don't ever want you to do anything you'd be uncomfortable with). If these posters would just go "Ick" and leave it at that, it'd be fine. I understand "ick." But they get so snooty about it ... thank goodness for you, Lor, and people like you, who figure it's a matter of taste and not of us being stupid or perverse or something. :)

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