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19 August 2005 10:46 am
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Thanks to Nat who felt my icons were a trifle stale. :) Whee!

I have a question that's been asked before (what a surprise). I was thinking, of Napoleon and Illya, supposing they found themselves realizing that (despite, perhaps, having never found a man sexually attractive before) they were very attracted to their partner. Which of them, do you think, would have most trouble expressing it? Not so much admitting it to himself (I think they'd be neck and neck with that) but admitting it to the other (if he believed the other to be straight)? I was thinking that because I have this image in my head of Napoleon as the braver of the two in that sort of circumstance. He'd just say it, damn the consequences. Whereas Illya, though equally brave in general, would be less inclined to admit it aloud -- because of the consequences.

Re: my two cents on the straight and gay question

Date: 20 August 2005 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leethet.livejournal.com
I have to admit your story (had to go look up the title, "Sleepless Nights," though I remember the story well*g*) was in the back of my mind when I was imagining scenarios, because I remember how ... well, how much IK really did not want to go into this. He was very reluctant, IIRC, and also I remember how very sad I was for IK because (at the end of that story, at least *g*) there seemed to be no chance for his love to be requited in the way he wanted. Without trying to suggest what you yourself intended in the story, I'd say it reflected the way I would see a gay IK telling a presumed-straight Napoleon -- he would be deeply deeply reluctant, in fact probably would not do it except under duress. Whereas (in my head) a gay Napoleon would perhaps offer up the possibility to a presumed straight IK in a gentle, feel very free to say no and I'll never mention it again, kind of way.
(And again, these perceptions, for me, are very flexible. I've been persuaded in stories of other scenarios, for sure)

Re: my two cents on the straight and gay question

Date: 20 August 2005 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] st-crispins.livejournal.com
Okay, I'm just curious:

Again, presuming that one is straight and one is gay, why is coming out tied necessarily to a proposition and/or disappointment?

Couldn't the gay one come out with nothing more intended, the straight one shrugs and says, okay, that's fine, and then they go on as before, close friends but with separate sex lives?

I realize this isn't a satisfying slash scenario, but it doesn't necessarily have to be sad. In a way, that's what happens when they're both straight.

Re: my two cents on the straight and gay question

Date: 20 August 2005 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Again, presuming that one is straight and one is gay, why is coming out tied necessarily to a proposition and/or disappointment?

Oh, it isn't. It's just that that was my original question. It wouldn't at all have to be. :)

Re: my two cents on the straight and gay question

Date: 20 August 2005 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leethet.livejournal.com
Sorry, that was me above, not logged in. Duh.

Re: my two cents on the straight and gay question

Date: 20 August 2005 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tgabrielle.livejournal.com
Again, presuming that one is straight and one is gay, why is coming out tied necessarily to a proposition and/or disappointment?

As to coming out per se that would certainly be the case. More usually in slash, however, they have sexual feelings for each other, so just coming out and agreeing to be friends with separate sex lives isn't going to quite fix the problem. How they act on said feelings has been told in slash fanfic from both Napoleon and Illya's POV; one of them eventually makes the first move, and it's farily equally divided as to which of them does so.

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