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I've been reading, and trying to write, in a new-to-me fandom. This, and my archiving of my MFU stuff on AO3, has made me think about something.

One of the things I like about LJ is that it makes actual comments about as easy as it's possible to make them barring being face to face with an author after you've finished a story (well, easier than that - what if you hated it?). One of the things I've observed in my own reading behavior in this "new" fandom is my own commenting. Now, I don't finish about 90 percent of the stories I start to read (this is true of any fandom). Of the ones I finish, I find most to be just OK (keep in mind this includes my own [see earlier poll] so I hope I don't sound too awful). Because of this, that "kudos" button is the easiest thing in the world. It sends an accurately mild (in terms of my time investment) "this was OK" message to the author.

I like it and I don't like it.

I like it because it's the exact right level of involvement for a story I only sorta liked. If I really like something I leave a comment, because if I really like something, there's always something I have to say about it.

It echoes the "like" button on FB. This is why I don't like it (yes, I'm a hypocrite. Or just human). One of the things I don't like about FB is the pretense it allows of intimacy. Of engagement. It's an extension of those Christmas form letters - "Dear INSERT NAME HERE" followed by some boasting. It (FB) allows people to pretend to maintain relationships without any of the actual (to my old-fashioned mind) maintenance of those relationships.

In this way the "kudos" button is the same; it permits readers to feel like they've "done their part" (I don't, for the record, think readers are required to do squat for writers - just so that's clear) without having actually troubled to give real feedback. Then again, do people use it because they can't think of what to say, because they're lazy, because they're busy, because they're intimidated - or because, like me, they don't really like most stories enough to feel they merit more than a lazy, in-passing thumbs up (again, I'm not finding fault with any of these approaches, just wondering)?

So, a poll. And, as always, please elaborate in comments. The way writers and readers think about stories is endlessly fascinating to me.
[Poll #1974799]

Re: Reply deux

Date: 10 July 2014 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leethet.livejournal.com
Which I think is another way of saying simply you are the only critic whose voice you're interested in hearing. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm not quite a good enough writer to feel like I can disregard criticism from a good source, but there aren't too many people I listen to. :-)

I entirely agree that more voices can be better than just one (although one qualified voice is worth a thousand unqualified voices) - one writing coach long ago said "If one person tells you to change it, don't worry. If a lot of people tell you to change it, change it." That's solid advice for someone whose aim is to communicate. It doesn't matter if you feel you have - if a lot of readers are telling you you haven't, you haven't.

Re: Reply deux

Date: 10 July 2014 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franciskerst.livejournal.com
I value others' advices while writing in French but I don't trust them; it's totally different in English.

By the way I don't want to give the impression I am a real writer, either in French or in English. In French, outside my work, I have merely written a few poems, and in English, only two long stories, one in Man from UNCLE and the other in "The Professionals" fandom (this one, very long, is almost complete but it took me ten years!).

Re: Reply deux

Date: 10 July 2014 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leethet.livejournal.com
I value others' advices while writing in French but I don't trust them

Can you parse this for me? I'm not seeing the distinction between the two when it comes to writing advice.

Re: Reply deux

Date: 11 July 2014 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franciskerst.livejournal.com
I mean I give them some consideration, especially if I like the adviser's person or his work, but I remain the sole arbiter "in fine".

Re: Reply deux

Date: 11 July 2014 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leethet.livejournal.com
I see - and that's absolutely as it should be. After all, your name goes on the work.

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